Forex Trading & the Casual Investor

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Forex Magnates recently caught up with Muhammad Rasoul, the new CPO at Gain Capital. We discussed his plans there as the CPO, what brought him there from GFT, the future of Gain Capital, and thoughts on the overall Forex and trading industry. As mentioned in the previous interview article, with so many interesting topics being discussed, we planned to publish additional segments as part of an overall industry discussion posts.

One interesting topic that was discussed was whether there was a place for the casual investor within Forex trading like in equities? With stocks, the buy and hold customer can invest in mutual funds, buy that 25 shares in Apple or Google, save for the future with their 401K, and have an overall passive experience. Is that something that can exist within the Forex industry, or do clients have to be active traders?

Muhammad Rasoul explained that while active traders have been the typical clients, there has always been a tiny minority that has been interested in taking a buy and sell position based on overall economic trends. For the most part though, these clients and their trading volumes make up a miniscule portion of the industry. One new area that Rasoul mentioned was catering to the casual investor was the “copy” traders entering the market. By virtue of the rise of companies offering these products and constant announcements from brokers applying the technology, it’s safe to say that “copy” traders are seeing success. In fact, in July we wrote about the success Invast Securities was having with Tradency and that they hoped to eventually have more mirror traders then manual ones. Rasoul added that the problem is finding strategies that can actually produce over the long term.

But are copy traders really a product that can be embraced by the casual investor. They require clients to research and choose strategies, submit allocation amounts, and apply ongoing supervision to strategies. Specifically, the allocation methods are complicated. Customers need to determine whether they want to copy trades in relation to the size of the master trader’s positions or based on a preset consistent size (for example, all copied trades will be 0.1 lots). Also, unlike mutual funds, there is little information available about the master traders.

Therefore, putting copy traders aside, what other products can be marketed to the casual investor? With Forex trading awareness growing, will we begin to see a rise of mutual fund types of offerings from established firms? Would a product using little leverage and conducting low volume turnover even be interesting to Forex firms to market?

My opinion is that due to the global financial crisis and ongoing EU financial problems, there is greater demand for currency based products. But, while a casual investor in the US may be interested in buying 20,000 AUDUSD to shield themselves from a weaker dollar, taking on leverage may not be appealing. On the other hand, for most brokers, servicing a client that only trades 100,000 in volume may not be worth the time. Therefore, perhaps a possible approach would be the creation of currency based mutual funds that are managed by Forex traders with established track records, and are marketed by Forex brokers. From the client’s perspective, the product would be nearly completely passive, have low fees and would trade with minimal leverage. On the broker side, the fund would present an opportunity to collect an ongoing revenue stream from low volume clients.

Currently, there are quite a few mutual fund companies offering currency based funds. However, to my knowledge, there are no Forex brokers that are involved with the marketing of these products.

So, should such funds be included at Forex brokers? Would they open up new revenue streams, or would they simply cannibalize existing business? Also, what other products could be created for the casual investor which would be worth the time of brokers to sell?

Interested in hearing ideas in the comments.

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  1. Tom said:

    A currency fund for retail investors is an interesting idea, but don’t
    regulations restrict mutual funds from participating directly in spot
    FX? As far as I know, funds can only gain FX exposure through ETFs, which
    significantly increases costs and limits leverage.

    September 3rd, 2012 at 5:59 pm
  2. Garrett said:

    I’m mostly of the thinking that forex probably isn’t a good place for the casual investor unless there is increased regulation and more transparency in the industry.

    It’s a bit blasphemous to even mention increased regulation considering I make my living as a forex trader (who is happy with the the current rules) but I still consider forex to be the wild west of financial markets and not a place for someone to get involved unless they plan on doing most of the work and research themselves. There’s massive opportunity, but it is likely balanced by risk if you don’t have a well thought out and tested plan to follow. I personally would be unlikely to trust that someone else would put in the due diligence required for me to be more hands-off.

    September 3rd, 2012 at 6:45 pm
  3. Jon said:

    The only semi-passive options would be Options on spot forex? These would have to be for at least 1-2 years out or longer. But there are way too many factors that go into forecasting forex vs stocks where you have a better idea of what a business offers to the public and can view a track record of what the company has done with product development. Plus with stocks, you can have dividends for the buy/hold strategy for larger companies. Forex is more ‘pure’ speculation.

    September 4th, 2012 at 9:01 am
  4. Ron Finberg said:

    @Tom – good point about regulation
    @Garret & @Jon – yes, forex does seem to be purely speculation.

    The way I see it, there are two types of retail clients; those looking for a “get rich quick” scheme, and people that actually want to trade and enjoy it. Based on the marketing and clients I have worked with, seems like the breakdown is something like 80/20. From a customer standpoint, this means that brokers will do what they can to get the “get rich quick” guys hooked and churn them as quickly as possible before they go onto their next endeavor.

    Therefore, there seems to be a lack of product out there that can hold onto these types of clients after they realize that trading isn’t easy and they move elsewhere. Perhaps you guys are true, and such a long term product may never be able to exist within the forex industry.

    September 4th, 2012 at 10:32 am
  5. Andy said:

    Oanda’s basket products could be interpreted to cater more to the passive investor. They only offer small leverage with those. But these are more like an ETF, not an actively managed fund.

    September 4th, 2012 at 11:57 am

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